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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2004, 12:35:27 am »

The only thing that I remember that was the same was the fuel. Al the rest was modified.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2004, 02:49:38 pm »

Regarding the Slylandro situation here:

The first quote
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We are the Slylandro. I am Content To Hover
a Slylandro Speaker.
explicitly says, that the Slylandro does speak through a Speaker hovering with him.
So, someone gave them hovering Speaker technology. Probably the Precursors.
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Were there any other visitors here besides the Melnorme and Milieu races?

Yes, there was another race... a highly sophisticated species of shaggy giants
who made repeated trips to our world over a period of several Drahn.
They even installed a broadcasting satellite in orbit around our world
which let us talk with them whenever we wanted. They were called the
the
I'm sorry, I can't remember their names. It was a long, long time ago.
The broadcasting satellite was in orbit, the speaker was supposely meant to transmit to the satellite, the satellite via HyperWave or whatever to the precursors. The Hovering Speaker probably cannot reach far out into space.
At least, that is what i read out of these two quotes.
So, according to me, the Precursors gave the Slylandro 2 artifacts, the Speaker and the Satellite. The Satellite broke down, but the Speaker remained.


Crowly: regarding the probes:
They did not recall the probe. The probes were programmed to return after a certain amount of time:
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Can you give me details about your probes?

Sure, if you are interested. In exchange for information about the life on Source
the Melnorme offered to give us a remote exploration probe.
It would roam the galaxy gathering information and contacting alien races
and when it had filled its data storage units, it would return here
and reveal to us everything it had learned!

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What was the probe's program?

It was sent on a 500 rotation mission!...
...to seek out new life and new civilizations...to boldly go where no
catalog item 2418-B... Remote Self-Replicating Robot Explorer Probe
had gone before!

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Ah! human Traveller. We have news.
One of our probes finally returned home
and we have been able to reconfigure it
so that it will seek other probes and broadcast the destruct code sequence.

So the probe either returned, because its' data cache was full and/or the 500 rotations were over.
It was never called back.
For me it was always clear, that the Slylandro to not have the means to signal into HyperSpace or anything further than their solar system.

How the Slylandros "turned the dial", i do not know. Likely, they used their hovering Speaker to transmit command to the probe in orbit. But that is my opinion.


And yes, the Slylandro have spokern with other Milieu members:
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Milieu? What is the Milieu and who are the Yuli and the Drall?

Hmmm... let me remember... that was a long, long time ago... I was only a nymph then
ah, yes... that's it!
The Sentient Milieu was a cooperative association of sentient alien species
The Yuli, the Drall, the Taalo, the Mael-Num, the Faz and the Ur-Quan
who lived across a wide section of the galaxy.
They talked with us fairly frequently for almost half a Drahn
then suddenly the visits stopped and we haven't heard from them since.
BTW: This also tells us, that the Slylandro can become very old beings, indeed. ("I was only a nymph then").
The individual seem to live as long as other civilizations are spacefaring-cultures. Amazing.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2004, 07:47:13 pm »

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Regarding the Slylandro situation here:

The first quote
explicitly says, that the Slylandro does speak through a Speaker hovering with him.


I read that to mean that Content to Hover is the name of a Slylandro individual whose job is to speak for the species.

Of course, your conclusion, that there must be some sort of receiver/transmitter setup floating around in the clouds, is necessarily correct.
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« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2004, 10:09:29 pm »

Maybe, but how did they build and upkeep it? There is no way a transmitter would be working for 200,000 plus years and not bust without upkeep.
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« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2004, 03:49:42 am »

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Maybe, but how did they build and upkeep it? There is no way a transmitter would be working for 200,000 plus years and not bust without upkeep.

But a space ship factory (which I assume is more complicated than a transmitter) can?
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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2004, 07:11:26 pm »

It's a "human thing" to make things that eventually break down. We should be very careful to judge other alien races by our 'normal' standards. For example the Mycon 'technology' is all biological.
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« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2004, 07:46:41 pm »

But, the precursors DO make mistakes, just take the mycons for example (pardon my SC3). I just don't think that a transmitter can work without breaking for 200,000+ years. Now the reason I think that factory did was because it was underground, closed off and all the parts were still. Also there might be a time that the robots had to get a LITTLE help from the  team....

OK, pardon the last idea, but the rest are legit.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2004, 08:40:15 pm »

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I read that to mean that Content to Hover is the name of a Slylandro individual whose job is to speak for the species.

I concur; the term "Slylandro Speaker" is capitalized, indicating that it is a title as opposed to an object.

The Precursor's transmitter might not need a speaker/microphone in Source's atmosphere; it could use some sort of psychic or holographic/telescopic technology (holographic/telescopic more likely if the slylandro speak via skincolor modification).

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Maybe, but how did they build and upkeep it? There is no way a transmitter would be working for 200,000 plus years and not bust without upkeep.

The Ur-Quan found the Sa-Matra in working order, and used it in their first doctrinal war.  If an entire battleship can survive intact, I'd think a simple transmitter would too, especially if the Precursors were giving it as a gift to the obviously long lived Slylandro before they disappeared.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2004, 01:27:07 am »

...and the Precursor factory that built your ship.  We know there was no maintenance preformed on that...stalagtites were forming on the machinery, but with the flick of a switch the whole thing came to life good as new (except for the lack of raw materials.)
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2004, 05:46:36 am »

Well, would it be the same if it was operational all the time?

Even if the tranmitter was not tranmitting, it would still have to be on.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2004, 01:01:06 am »

Apparently, it did. I can think of no other explanation for our ability to communicate.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2004, 10:03:57 pm »

I guess they just don't make them like they used to... Cry
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2004, 06:56:53 pm »

in the core of gas giants pressure is so maniacly high that gases are squashed to solid matter. Living so long on gas giat, wouldnt slylandro been evolved to last eaven n those horryfying pressures? there they could then build some machine from the solid gas, wich would be able to communicate and keep its molecyles tight-packed so it would remain solid. or then they just use telephaty Tongue
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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2004, 02:17:52 am »

Evolution requires non-replicative reproduction, and the more generations per unit time, the more mutations can occur.  It doesn't look like the Slylandro would have changed that much since their lifespans appear to be measured in eons.

Even if they had children at a pace equal to humans (filling up Source with Slylandro), that's still a drastic mutation you're asking for; sort of akin to saying that since humans have been around so long, we've got to have water-breathing cousins at the bottoms of the oceans who can control their pressures so well they can swim to the surface.
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Re: Unsolved Mysteries
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2004, 03:48:53 am »

I can't believe we had a 4 page thread over whether the slylandro had a speaker/satellite or not.

My $.02, everyone should stop thinking so realistically and start think science fictionaly (emphasis on fiction) If we start questioning something simple like how the slylandro are able to communicate, we must as well start talking about why the Arilou can change through dimensions, why the translator only has trouble with the Orz, and can translate flawlessly 10 other alien languages. If a device that intensifies the suns energy takes down a slave shield, wouldn't the sun that the planet is orbiting eventually take down a slave shield as well?

Let's face it, there's bound to be illogical stuff in a game like this, because it's not real. And who's to say that just because we aren't able to accomplish something as humans, that it's impossible.  
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