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Shofixti Remix
« on: January 17, 2003, 01:26:28 am »

Pretty trippy, huh ?  Kinda like that old quasi-japanese Shofixti tune got remixed by some ghetto DJ........complete with record scratching !
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2003, 02:59:51 am »

I didn't really think it fit the Shofixti well, but the point has been made several times by some (including Norg) that the remix project isn't designed to make tunes that fit the situations.  It's designed for remixing.  So in that vein, I've got to say that the track was very enjoyable.  The scratches and guitar bursts were awesome, but the incoherent screaming just hooked me.   Grin
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2003, 04:35:13 am »

I think that it doesn't fit the shofixti, but then I don't think the original track did either.  Something more in the style of their victory ditty would've worked better.

Oddly enough, I feel this same way about both Ilwrath tunes... I'll just have to wait for a remix of one that I do think fits...
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2003, 05:02:14 am »

i should've known that a hip hopish instrumental wouldn't do anything for a metal head. *grin*

you all hit the nail on the head, really.  the original song didn't have much to work with, so it gave me the latitude to extrapolate on the use of the single record scratch in the original track and ... well ... go nuts. (:

i remember playing through the game about six years ago and thinking "you know, i wonder what this song would sound like with expanded scratches..."  i had no clue that i'd be putting that thought to reality.

glad you liked the screaming, arrow. *grin*
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2003, 12:05:17 am »

 Grin

I just downloaded the Shofixti remix along with the Ilwrath one.  When I was playing the Ilwrath mix, my girlfriend came over and gave me a lapdance.  Swear to god.

I haven't told her it's about spiders.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2003, 01:55:25 am »

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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2003, 08:09:24 am »

Jeezus, these remixes are like some half-crazed DJ got a hold of the original songs and wierded them out!

Me likey.

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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2003, 06:49:12 pm »

George, I like it a lot  Cheesy  Keep rockin' !
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2003, 06:52:00 pm »

I like it a lot but find it out of character.

And it just has a bit too much reverberation for me.

I would like to hear 'unplugged' versions of these songs played on these cultures' traditional instruments. Grin
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2003, 04:07:34 am »

This tune rocks!  I thought it held more true to the original than the illwrath remix did and I also loved the screem.  The scratches kinda reminded me of dogs barking in some parts and I think that goes along with the Shofixti very well, even though the beat of the original may not have.  Then again, this really isn't about how well the music goes with the characters so much as how well the remix builds and stands over the original.  IMHO this tune does a great job at doing so, and is one that I wouldn't mind listening to over and over while talking with one of these horney little bastards. Smiley
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2003, 07:17:03 am »

i love you people, i really do . (:

i have to admit that an unplugged record player would probably sound ... drab.  Cheesy

i guess i'll end the mystery now, btw.  "like a panther on the loose" doesn't hold any specific meaning; it just sounded cool and seemed to fit, so i threw it in.  Roll Eyes

i'm very, very relieved that ya'll are enjoying it!
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2003, 04:37:19 am »

Just soo you know, I poasted this at the Pages of Now and Forever, too Grin

You want some constructive critisism.  Here goes.  This is bad  Embarrassed.   All right, the origional Shofixi theme wasn't the best and really needed work, but this is worse.  While the origional kinda identified a bit on the Shifixxi culture (That honor is everything), this is just strange (not to say that the second half of the origional wasn't also strange).  Those record scratches (is that what they are called) are COMPLETY out of theme.  It really damaged the music.  Second, way too much random-sounding solos, this goes for the origional too.  Third, like in the origional, the baseline dissappears and there is no supportinve music to go with the melody.   Angry
I liked some things about this, though.  I kinda-sorta liked the screaming, that weird jet/ship/waht ever flyby like thingie was ok, but it appeared too much.  I liked about half of the drumming, it got too errotic after awhile.  I really liked the chimes and the like, though.  Wink

to sum it up, like in the Ilwrath remix, it doesn't fit well.  in the Illwrath origional, as soon as that deep baseline kicked in, I think Big. Scary. Evil. Dealdy. Spiders.  the remix didn't have that feeling.  This one is like that, only the origional wasn't as good.   Sad
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2003, 05:04:02 am »

see, when i first started writing music in a digital medium twelve years ago, i was at a stage in my life (read: very, very young) where if i'd read comments like that about a song that i did, my response would have been something along the lines of "stfu, poopie head.  opinions are like assholes and they're all full of sh*t" or some such.

now that i'm older and a smidge wiser, i'll respond a bit more diplomatically.

first of all, i appreciate your effort to provide some constructive criticism, or the closest thing you are able to come up with, so thank you very much. (:

unfortunately, i'm not going to let you off the hook that easily. *grin*  here i go:

first of all, you've read posts before that we are part of a group that are taking the original songs of the game and remixing them.  if you have ever heard a remix of a song on the radio or some such, you'll note that some of the time it has a few elements of the original, but more often than not it is an excuse to make a dance tune out of something that was never intended to be a dance tune.

our team is taking that concept one step further and making, what we feel, to be remixes that are a little more interesting to listen to than the typical pop wave.

so now for the meat and potatoes.

you're correct.  there was very little to work with in the original song. however, it was still an original song, coupled with an original game, so no mere mortal remix of a song fighting against that much nostalgia is going to change anything.  the good news is we're not out to compete with the original music; we're taking it a step further and putting new twists on them.  this is no different for the poor shofixti music, which got put through harlem, south central L.A., your local ghetto, dr. dre's reject pile, and then available for download.

the question most people have asked me thusfar in private has been, "where on God's green earth did you come up with the idea to make a hip-hop instrumental out of -that-?"

if you listen to the original music, there is a bit of a beat in the song that almost sounds like the single use of a record scratch.  when i was playing through the game for about the 4th time about 5 or so years ago, i remember thinking that it would be cool to extrapolate on that single record scratch.  so here i was years later with the opportunity and i took it.

if you analyse the song on the merits of the piece by itself, then i can simply disregard your statements about how the record scratches damage the musifc and are out of theme.  quite the contrary.  i'm not going to go into a history of hip hop music right now because i'm at work and i'd probably get fired for lookin at some of the web pages i'd need for reference. (:  be that as it may, i'm willing to wager that hip hop isn't your favorite style of music to begin with, so a song that takes those types of themes and brings them into the star control realm isn't going to exactly float your boat.

hell, i don't even like most hip hop all that much.  this project is as much about the challenge of taking old songs and making them new again as it is about challenging myself to try new things.

i'm dying to know how the original shofixti musical theme had anything to do with honor.  enlighten me. (:

i can't compete with ten years of nostalgia.  not a chance.  i'm not trying.  i'm having the time of my life bringing old themes back to life with a few new twists.  i don't think any of my other remixes thus far or from this point on are going to be quite as out in left field as this particular one, but it's always fun to do a little shakedown every now and again to make sure people are paying attention.

to clarify: when i look for constructive criticism, i'm more interested in musical theory, structure, overall sound and mixing, composition, and methodology rather than "it's bad." (:  but like i said, i appreciate the time you took to post some interesting comments.

and finally, i forgot to have it noted in the release of the song (or in the notes of the mp3 tag) that the song is engineered to loop, rather than just stop at the end.  whoops.  my bad. (:

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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2003, 07:56:14 pm »

BanditAngel touched on something that I don't quite get...

In both the Ilwrath and Shofixti remixes there's a point where the whole thing gets quiet for a few seconds...

Is that just a personal touch of yours, Norg?  coincidence?  cause when it happened in both it kinda makes me wonder....
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Re: Shofixti Remix
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2003, 08:48:08 pm »

actually, i can't speak to riku's ilwrath remix because his styles are dramatically different than mine. with regards to the silence that you heard, if you turn up the volume somewhat, you'll hear that it's actually the sound of a needle being put down onto a record.  sorta setting the stage for the rest of the song.

so i guess it was a coincidence as far as those two songs are concerned.  now that i think about it, i think i have a bit sorta like that in what i've done with spathi... i'd hate to think that i'm following some kind of recipe.  doh!  time to re-evaluate. (:
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