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« on: June 26, 2010, 07:21:48 am »

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a community actually still EXISTS for this game!

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(FYI I am 16 years old as of right now)

Ok, first let me tell how i've found this as either it is interesting or i like tlaking about myself...

about 5 years ago, as a random thrift store, i bought this old game i saw, used condition...

in the plastic bag was a manual, a disk, a thin white cardboard sheet with install instructions on it and... well that's it...

When on the way home (I am always bored on family thrift store days where we spend the whole day just driving from store to store looking for anything interesting...) I read the manual, sounds like my kind of game, and i'm DYING to play it!

I get home and install it, try to run it, and...  Angry it doesn't like XP...
Disappointed i put Star Control 3 Away at the bottom of my huge pile of discs...

well a year and a halfish ago i started looking for some way i could run the game, because by then i had learned emulators exist etc... (because i had started experimenting with linux) and started looking fora dos emulator, found it! dosbox.

I got it working and played the game, i LOVED it; i probably have spent upward of 300 hours on that game. (and i know because my monitor gives a "backlight hours" statistic lol..."
but, first time through it gets boring, why? because i cant figure out what to do next... Phail, I had somehow missed getting the Dakdaklacpak translator..
So,  I retry the game, and this time i do everything that the ICOM says, and spam hunam colonies as they are the only non-flake ones... (evil mycon, freaky syreen, spineless spathi, ur-quan to kzerza colonies, vux traitors, utwig ultron breakers, phunk "I got ran over by a precursor computer"ers... ET-CETERA...
anyway, i beat the game, it was buggy, but i beat it!
Then i spent most of my time in melee mode, although i did try doing a plane-by-planet scan for anything interesting... meh i could upgrade my ships? phehh..

Well, about a week ago (this last monday actually) i decided to play it again, but OH NOES i lost the disc... so i started looking for a downlaod of star control 3, since i always look for downloads of stuff i've lost the discs to... ANYWAY I find it but it has the media ripped out of it for some retarded reason... but in my search i found star control 1/2 and decided to try them thinking "Well, it probably wont be as good as the 3rd one, but let's see..."

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Yea, #3 sucks by comparison!

Earlier today i was going through my firefox tabs and this site (not the one i got the DL from :p )took a quick look and though... "Heh, forums, i bet they are dead, but i'll take a look anyway..."

So, here i am, amazed at the following this game has!

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I am always an extremely HYPER newbie at every community i join for a while and manage to annoy everyone, so just FYI...
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So, from what i understand three was talk of a modern star control game being made by the original makers, but it hasn't been done and is looking less and less likely...
But, copyright owners are even all these years adamantly fighting community projects regarding this game?!
(seems dumb to me as this can't possibly cost them money directly or indirectly...)

What made SC3 fun for me was the colony management, building my fleet, nad interacting with alien races in ythat fassion...
What makes SC2 fun is The same interactions, the interesting planets, customizing my ship, and the whole idea of the game... (I Haven't beaten the game yet so dont spoil it! lol )

It got me thinking (as all new games i love do) things that could be done to make it better... (THus why i mod other games like star wars: empire at war, etc...) - PS - MY SHift KEy STicks - PS _
Star control 2 could easily compete with the games on the market with a total graphics makeover. Hands Down! (All successful old games could, ha ha, they made themselves good thorugh good gameplay, NOT good graphics. New games like SPORE on teh other hand...)

So, did i get anything wrong in the above, did my grammar suck, and hai. Smiley

oh, and does anyone mind If i try 3D-modeling some of the star control 2 Ships for fun.. well actually nobody will mind, what i mean is some opinions on it. Smiley (If not, OMG YOU'll BREAK THEIR GOOD LOOKS!)
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 07:23:02 am »

BTW the community here is larger than that of games that are in the past few years.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 07:31:27 am »

I think there are other active SC2 sites too.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 08:05:24 am »

Hello and welcome to the awesome world of Star Control 2 !
You'll read it in the forums, but there is a online mellee option in UQM, if you liked the HyperMellee, you'll like it here even more.


There are also at least two more communities for SC universe that I am aware of -
Frungylovers community at LiveJournal and another forum called SCDB, short for Star Control Dicussion Board.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 03:54:46 pm »

I Liked SC3 Melee, but just because in this melee rotation feels limited to fewer "Notches" of rotation, harder to aim :/

I still can't beat the "Standard" Bot, so i am playing with cyborg.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 04:02:27 pm »

Well, you know what they say - practice makes perfect. Or hilarious waste of time, either one.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 11:29:24 pm »

Well see you in a few days, once i make the 3d model of the earth cruiser. (and want opinions ("YOU SCREWED THIS UP!") on it)

You see, I Am always looking for something new to model...

Gahh and something always gets me stuck, what should the point defense lasers look like  Lips Sealed
* Kerr heads out to look for current laser defense tech...

PS after 3 hours of a full fleet of human cruisers VS a half fleet of avengers, the avengers win every time with their superior firepower, defense, and speed...
They flame the nukes, and outrun the cruiser...

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Well, I'm not particularly satisfied with it... :/ idk if ill post a pic...
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 01:31:43 am »

The community here is friendly and houses plenty modellers. If there is criticism to be dealt out, it will be constructive.
In addition, as I mentioned before, there is another dedicated board with 3D models posted (where is Lukipela? hasn't posteed the link yet, I'm getting worried) that you might get creative ideas.
http://star-control.com/fan/resources.php under section 3D models.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 02:13:17 am »

well, just dont complain about the background & the bottom portion :p (Weren't high enough resolution, and i suck/dislike doing 2d image editing...)

I guess i just dont have anything to go on to make it look better/more interesting from here.... maybe redo the nukes/bridge thoroughly...

Dont cry if it breaks your monitor lol, i wanted to be able to zoom up really close to it.

http://darkstars.co.uk/svn/kerr/Human%20Cruiser.jpg

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 05:51:02 am »

Welcome to the community, Kerr. Always nice to see new faces around.

Luki is currently on vacation, but I'm sure he'll pop in before too long.

That's a pretty decent untextured model, though that does make the detail rather difficult to see. The only thing is that the nacelles on either side of the ship should be angled down instead of up. For visual reference:

http://star-control.com/sc1/ships.php
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 09:25:45 pm »

somehow i got someone to delete their account...

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 09:26:25 pm »

Luki is currently on vacation, but I'm sure he'll pop in before too long.

Midsummer rules. It sucks to be back at work for 3 more weeks. Thanks for spamming PNF links guys, it saves me the trouble Wink

Kerr, a few helpful suggestions for you. It's totally and absolutely okay to be hyper and excited about discovering a new place like this. You're super-welcome.  But here are a few tips to enhance your forum experience:

Please consider that not all of us speak English as their first language. It's often the second, third or fourth. That means that we really appreciate it if people take the time to spell properly, capitalize and use grammar. Otherwise it's hard for us to follow the conversations and we're liable to simply skip over most of what you write. I guess you could phrase it as a form of respect. If you want people to respect you enough to read and reply to all your posts, make sure to respect them enough to make them legible.

Also, it's great that you are posting pictures and spoiler the really big ones. But most people aren't going to start scrolling around your 5000 by 5000 picture, it's simply too big to get a grip on. Consider using something like tinypic to upload pictures in a more manageable format.

Other than that, welcome aboard. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask or PM us. We're here to help.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 05:44:46 pm »

come on luki, you lecture him/her about spelling and you spell want as ant?  Huh
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2010, 12:06:52 pm »

come on luki, you lecture him/her about spelling and you spell want as ant?  Huh

One of the perils of writing in your third language massah, my humblest apologies for failing to meet the lofty standards of spelling I set out to suggest. Let the record state that I don't think that an accidental error or two every now and then is necessarily an outright atrocity, merely that I feel that in general one should attempt to apply proper spelling, grammar and capitalization to maximise the utility this fine board serves for those of us who are foreigners to your fine language. Most of us can easily figure out a misspelled word here or there, even though an entire sentence filled with them may prove far too much for our foreign understanding of the delicate structures of English.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2010, 01:42:35 pm »

And it is beneficial too for learning the language better - for example, this "requirement" has cured my bad habit of placing extra space before punctuation marks.
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