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Lukipela
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SPOILER WARNING FOR zoqfotpik AND ANYONE ELSE WHO HASNT PLAYED SC3 AND DONT WANT TO FIND OUT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE STORY!!!!
True, we really don't consider SC3 canon here, but I would like to reply to this oner comment with the simple fatc, no it doesn't, it has no bearing on what we are disussing here. SC3 only states that the Precursors devolved, what happened to the actual ppl known as precursors. Whereas what we are discussing here is what happened to all the artifacts and machinery the Precursors should logically have left behind when they disappeared, seeign as they were a high tech civilisation. Unless you believe that the precursors advanced technologies devolved into grass, then citing what happned to them really has no bearing whatsoever on this conversation.
That said, not even that said, as this is not a SC3 thread, but a SC thread, which, as you may have noticed from ppl reactions to your reply, isn't the same.
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but i realy doubt that it would be destroy. but no many how many species search the city the city would still be there. unless they were afriad of it falling int the wrong hands.
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WHERE ARE THE CITIES?
cities from eygpt and nazca are still around and are a good enogh condition to reconize
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So if the precursors were here, left, and other cultures then scavenged most of the stuff they left behind during the millennia, shouldn't we find some traces of this cultures as well? Maybe it's just never mentioned in the game, but if there were other cultures you'd think they'd be mentioned at least once or twice???
This depends on where these cultures were located, I would think.
*) If they were/are located in "our" quadrant of space (the same one SC2 is set in), you find most of them during the game anyway.
*) If they were/are located in a "coreward" direction from our quadrant, they probably still haven't been contacted by most of the races we are familiar with (that's also true if they're located in the opposite direction). Also, it is indicated in the game that when the precursors left this quadrant they moved towards the galactic core; thus, it's even more likely to find precursor artifacts in that direction.
*) If they were located in a "galactic-spin-wise" or "counter-galactic-spin-wise" direction from our quadrant, then they were either wiped out by the Kohr-Ah (along with any precursor artifcats which they might have had, unless those artifacts could somehow survive in a recognizable form when the entire planet is being burnt and melted), or slaveshielded by the Ur-Quan (again, along with any artifacts they might have).
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Lukipela
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If they were located in our quadrant you'd find most of them anyway? Excuse me, but how many histories about elder races did you hear? The Taalo, the Burvixese and the Gg (not even in our quadrant) seems to be pretty much it. My point was, that if the precursor sites and cities in OUR quadrant had been raided by other races, that came before the current races, but after the Precursors, there should be some traces of them left. And you don't hear about any of those do you. If these races are the current races, then shouldn't we know a lot more about the precursors? We'd have cities and stations galore to examine, and the other races would have examined them for thousands of years already! With the exception of the Chenjesu, none of "our" races seem potential candidates.
Also, if they re beinglocated in a coreward direction. Yes, the precursors would have been through there and left things behind, seeing as they were heading corewards, BUT. At that stage they woyuld be on their mysterious journey, so they porably wouldn't have left a huge amount of stuff behind. Most things indicate that the Precursors either came from this part of space, or were at least resident here for some time. One leaves more traces behind were one lives than where one just passes through.
For the Spinward-anti spinward comment, I'd say the quan would proably be on the lookout for precursor tech, and attempt to salvage it where possible. The Kzer-Za definetly wouldn't leave it on a slaveshielded planet anyway
So, where are the traces? Or the traces of those who did away wioth the traces? Or the traces of those who did away with the traces of those who did away wtih the traces. There should be some sort of trace.
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Frankly I think the traces got lost in one of TFB's paychecks  they wanted to make them mysterious, so they didn't bother too much with artifacts and traces..
But for arguement's sake, there are so many reasons for traces to disappear - over few thousand centuries (that's a pretty lot of time), our quardent could have had been raided numerous times, the precursors' artifacts could be buried deep within planets avoiding scanner range (Inside Earth, as Commander Hayes hints), destroyed by time, etc.,...
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Lukipela
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That's a theoretical point. What i meant was that the few things we find are in perfect working order (or appear to be).
So from this I delude a few things:
1. The precursors built things that last a long time, IF they wanted them to last for a long time (Example, the Slylandro Caster, The Vela Factory, Both Precursor Bombs, The Sun Device, Sa-Matra)
2. The Precursors also built things that weren't virtually indetructible, and could brake. Logically, for day to day items and things that weren't needed for a long period of time they would spend extra resources on making them virtually indestructible. Example, the Ultron. (Ok, one example is weak, but all I can think of:
From these two facts I delude that:
1. The precursors built some things not to last, of which most are gone, but some of which amzaingly have survived, whereas most have not
1. When building larger installations or objects for long-range agendas, the brecursors did indeed build to last.
Now, we have so far found only a few of these things, but if the Precursors were really as endlessly curious as we hear that htey were, then shouldn't there be more?
And that brings us neatly back to the thread without any more contradictions.
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