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Re: make a game
« on: May 07, 2003, 10:10:18 am »

about five thousand will do.

and i think they should all be named "eh steve!"
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2003, 12:21:03 pm »

What are the draconians doing in the list anyway? Aren't they good guys nowadays? After all, the gods have left...
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2003, 03:20:36 am »

Don't get started with your moral relativism. The Draconians are as evil as the Meev; they're just better at explaining away their actions.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2003, 03:46:25 am »

i just need someone who knows computer code
game design wise
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2003, 04:12:01 am »

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Don't get started with your moral relativism. The Draconians are as evil as the Meev; they're just better at explaining away their actions.


Hmmm... I must have missed the Meev, wher're are they from? i just know that Draconians, such as Kang&Co. always seemed to be  a reasonabel lot to me. More interested in realities and morals then sides. Not like those kenders, I wouldn't trust them...
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2003, 09:24:32 am »

the names i came up with like the meev
the draconians are from doctor who but i guess i can get rid of there name and come up with something else
but the rest i came up with
the meev do look neat as the rest of my art work
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2003, 09:51:42 pm »

Our point was, why are you asking someone to make a game about a large number of species about which you have said nothing but their names?
If you want to get anyone to do something long and difficult with you, like program a game, an important step is to impress them with coherence, creativity, an understanding of priorities, and persistence. Otherwise the project will be doomed, and they will know it.

Anyway, why do you want to start a new highly complicated game just like this one which isn't finished yet?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2003, 01:05:18 am »

I haven't chimed in my 2 cents on this subject because I knew if I got on my soapbox and ranted that I'd be at it all day.

Disclaimer before I go on. These comments are not directed towards one person, not even the original poster of this thread. This just happens to be a pet peeve of mine from my childhood.

Check it out.

If you want someone to go throught the difficult and laborious process of programming you game for you because you don't have the programming skills and are too lazy to be bothered learning them, then expect noone to take your request seriously. You want to recruit people to your project. Then make a demo, do an animation, write a script, and I mean the whole dang script, not just some loosely concieved ideas on a half a napkin written around the maranara sauce you wiped from your mouth.

In other words, if you want someone to put forth effort for you, put forth effort to make them want to.

Programming is a intensive thing. Even if you were smart enough to be a programmer you can't just expect to whip out a game in a week or so in your spare time. Professional games take 2 years or more of a team of full time programmers working on it. Even the suckiest of one-man projects has taken the dedication of hours to the project.

So don't say, "I've got a great idea." SHOW me. Actually put forth the effort to make some cleaned up, finished work. A completed script or novelization. Some completed, colored artwork. Some animations, 2-d or 3-d. Or even better, learn to program, download a complier (Borland Builder has a ton of free stuff if you know where to look. MSVC is also free) and PRODUCE something. Anything cleaned up enough that can stand on it's own might even be marketable.

And I think if every 'idea guy' actually took the time to focus on developing something with their ideas in this way, instead of just spamming every wet dream they have, alot more would go "nevermind, it wasn't that good an idea to begin with," and the rest of us would have to find something else to rant about.

Instead, what happens is someone comes up and says, "I want someone to do my work for me, here's what I thought of...." Then every other idea man ends up posting, "cool idea man, I'm worthless, but I hope someone else will do it for you," thus boosting the ego of the original idea making them think that it's actually worth someone else taking the time to develop it, neither realizing that, in reality, it's not.
Stepping off my soapbox now and taking a nap. Me tired.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2003, 09:09:09 am »

And people say I'm harsh.... Still, good points. Show us a full/near completed idea, and we'll react in a completely different way.

EDIT: Hmmm, something seems oddly missing in this thread,,,,
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2003, 07:42:41 pm »

Yeah, what happened to the first post on this one?
I'm afraid CK may have deleted it because of my post.
Again, it's not personal, guy! I'm just one loud-mouth on a soapbox, yo.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2003, 08:13:45 pm »

The "spamming every wet dream they have" part was a little harsh, but I agree with guesst.  I would have put it a lot nicer, but I cannot tell you how many projects just in the Star Control community I've seen started with half-assed enthusiasm or not knowing what they'd get themselves into and it is never finished.  The news on PNF is riddled with them.  Its almost an "archived list" of things that never got finished.  Thats my cynical rant for the day.  Well, here, at least Wink

Thats why this project is exciting.  It seems like it might actually get completed.  I was hoping Timewarp might get completed, but the status report theard over there has turned into people giving their opinions on why everything fell apart.  :-/
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2003, 09:17:32 pm »

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Timewarp might still get completed. It's gone through patches of "no developement" problems from time to time. Then some awesome programmer picks up the pieces, moves it light years forwards before dropping it again. I still think Orz has something up his sleeve and we haven't seen the last of TW yet.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2003, 05:58:28 am »

i got part of a story wrote for  a game like star control
and find someone to help make it but i think ill just give up
and im going to dump my alien art work in the trash
and im going to grow up because star control is starting to suck
and im starting to hate star control 3 too because the game clock make it go to fast or to slow everything else is fine
thanks accolade Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2003, 06:00:02 am »

also ships in trash and the rest of art work Angry Angry Angry Angry
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2003, 06:11:09 am »

plus im not dumb i had a stroke in 1989
i could come out with a game if i could
i just cant do math any more
im just amazed i wrote a story
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