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CSA Website (This is so retarded...)
« on: April 29, 2009, 11:44:58 pm »

http://www.confederatestatesofamerica.org/index.html

Some people are claiming that the Confederate States of America (from the American Civil War 150 years ago) still exists. It's so ridiculous it almost looks like a joke, except it seems way too elaborate to be a simple joke. Plus I don't see any sign of "April Fools!" anywhere on the site. So my guess is these people are just crazy.

If you look a bit, they also claim that the CSA now owns 7 states as territories, as well as all the states that originally seceded and territories originally claimed by the CSA as states. They claim that the CSA is just being "occupied" by the United States.

Another thing, which almost makes me think it might be an elaborate attempt at identity theft or taking people's money, is that they tell you that you need to apply to become a citizen by paying $50.00 as well as sending a copy of your birth certificate and driver's license.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2009, 04:42:27 pm »

Almost? If they're doing that, it's definitely a scam.

Couldn't be aimed at better people, frankly.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 07:14:59 pm »

I doubt it's a scam. All that effort for only $50 and a person's identity, with only a very small target audience? There are much easier ways.
This is their own explanation: here, and see also link.
It does make sense that if you're trying to (re)create a state, you want to know who your citizens are. And administrative fees exist when dealing with regular governments.
It's all rather silly though, and it could still be an elaborate joke, but I doubt it; it's just the sort of thing that some people will do, and it is just too detailed.
It does remind me of the Flat Earth Society joke though.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2009, 09:07:42 pm »

I doubt it's a scam. All that effort for only $50 and a person's identity, with only a very small target audience? There are much easier ways.
This is their own explanation: here, and see also link.

That's why I said "almost". Like you said, the site is much too elaborate to be just that. Also, the site's apparently been up since 2006, and if it were a scam they would surely be revealed by now. Scams usually only last for a short period of time.

One thing I just don't get is why? Why would someone want to revive the Confederate States of America, the government that explicitly supported African slavery? If the CSA came back with that same name, nobody would support them at all. It's true that they don't support slavery and simply want a change in government (to the old US constitution, under the Articles of Confederation), but people just won't realize this. Why heck, even the Confederate flag is now a racist symbol. Everyone will instantly relate them to racism.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 03:53:08 pm »

Not everyone, just people who aren't racist.

I say we ought to declare war on them. Again.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2009, 04:30:20 pm »

That would be a wonderful economic stimulus package for you guys. Bomb some of your own states and then rebuild them. Tons of jobs created in no time.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 05:36:17 pm »

^ That's the way it went last time, so you're probably right.
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2009, 04:19:47 am »

*sigh*

And that's why southerners also still call it the War of Northern Agression and make idiotic websites like this one. Because some people just can't let go. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2009, 03:06:30 pm »

No, they call it the War of Northern Aggression because they're effing clueless. Saying "hey, we're a separate country" doesn't make it so, and when the country you're actually a part of doesn't hand you the keys, that's not being aggressive. And when you kill people trying to get them... that's not them being aggressive.

Who declared war? Oh, right. The CSA.

Anyway, I wasn't proposing invading the south, because the south is composed principally of good people who are also loyal citizens. I was proposing invading the CSA, which is at this point some guy's house and perhaps a post office box run by the US government.
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2009, 05:17:12 pm »

I think these idiots just don't understand that the US wasn't just going to let states split the union freely. The United States is a country, not an alliance, and the south was part of the country, not a colony. It would be like Scotland trying and failing to secede from the UK, and claiming that the English were "aggressors" who "attacked their peaceful culture".

I guess some people just don't know the meaning of revolt. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2009, 05:39:26 pm »

I think these idiots just don't understand that the US wasn't just going to let states split the union freely. The United States is a country, not an alliance, and the south was part of the country, not a colony. It would be like Scotland trying and failing to secede from the UK, and claiming that the English were "aggressors" who "attacked their peaceful culture".

The English were aggressors who occupied Scotland, although it'd be a stretch to call Scottish culture "peaceful".
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2009, 08:37:41 pm »

I think these idiots just don't understand that the US wasn't just going to let states split the union freely. The United States is a country, not an alliance, and the south was part of the country, not a colony. It would be like Scotland trying and failing to secede from the UK, and claiming that the English were "aggressors" who "attacked their peaceful culture".

I guess some people just don't know the meaning of revolt. Roll Eyes

Obviously. However there are much bigger idiots than those people who live in the United States, and much more dangerous idiots.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2009, 09:28:36 pm »

I think these idiots just don't understand that the US wasn't just going to let states split the union freely. The United States is a country, not an alliance, and the south was part of the country, not a colony. It would be like Scotland trying and failing to secede from the UK, and claiming that the English were "aggressors" who "attacked their peaceful culture".

I guess some people just don't know the meaning of revolt. Roll Eyes

Obviously. However there are much bigger idiots than those people who live in the United States, and much more dangerous idiots.

You mean terrorists?
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2009, 02:32:00 am »

Not really, they are more dangerous, but fanatic is a more proper term than idiot for terrorists.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2009, 07:51:09 am »

Not everyone, just people who aren't racist.

I say we ought to declare war on them. Again.

Anyway, I wasn't proposing invading the south, because the south is composed principally of good people who are also loyal citizens. I was proposing invading the CSA, which is at this point some guy's house and perhaps a post office box run by the US government.

I'm probably just reading too much into this, but when you say declare war on the CSA again, does that mean they've been involved in some sort of trouble already
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